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rottie-psychotic
Tue Aug 17 2010, 05:16PM
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I looked at a site that had Dogo Argentinos working with Patterdale and Jagd Terriers to hunt and kill Coyotes and other wild animals.
Dogos are meant to work in packs and are great hunters and known to be guard dogs too.
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A) Kung fu monkeys and rabbit bait made me laugh A LOT!

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B) I must own the world's only South African dog that LOATHES the heat!

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rottie-psychotic wrote ...

I looked at a site that had Dogo Argentinos working with Patterdale and Jagd Terriers to hunt and kill Coyotes and other wild animals.
Dogos are meant to work in packs and are great hunters and known to be guard dogs too.


Well hunting coyotes and guarding from them are two different things. Typically you'd use a deerhound or deerhound/grey to hunt coyotes, would also suit the OP in that they're not suspicious of strangers, only problem is maybe a coyote would have no trouble "stealing" a boston terrier from a lazy and oblivious sighthound's property.
I think unfortunately that's the problem you'll consistently run into trying to find a dog that's not too suspicious of strangers. Dogs that guard effectively are just generally suspicious. That's really the secret to their success.

Think you'd probably manage with any largish dog though really, I think the bostons will probably be suspicious enough and act as an alarm for whatever other dog you choose. If you like GSDs I don't see why they wouldn't be perfect. Although they're pretty suspicious of strangers, but maybe I'm overstating how much of a concern that is for you.

As for the heat issue, dogs don't struggle with dry heat so much, it's humidity that's the real killer.
Obviously we're talking extreme dry heat though and it will still be quite uncomfortable for some dogs, avoid arctic breeds obviously, but also avoid bracycephalic breeds (ie breeds with very short snouts a bit late with the bostons I know). The main way canines regulate their temperature is with their nose and mouth, it's actually a more significant factor than coat, and the more snout there is the more well they can handle both heat and the cold. A shaggy coated scottish deerhound can handle the heat better than a south african boerboel, believe it or not.
I'd avoid the bullmastiffs and olde bulldogges and etc that I see being suggested (as much as I love such breeds). If you were determined to go in that "gladiator dog" ( mastiff and bullbreed) direction I'd keep an eye out for crossbreeds akin to what you see with aussie boardogs, or at least breeds which don't have such pushed in faces. BM and OEB are two of the worst candidates for such an environment IMO.
Bulk negatively affects heat tolerance as well, any dogs you have in such a climate should be kept pretty lean, especially if they aren't naturally that way inclined.

Ridgebacks would be ok, not sure about their tolerance for cold weather but that shouldn't be a problem as long as they have some shelter at night. Aussie cattle dogs are masters at handling both the heat and the cold, but I don't like suggesting them as pets to be honest. Otherwise that would be a pretty good suggestion for you I think, not too big and will love going hiking and following you on horseback and etc, endless energy, surly enough to ward off even the most persistent coyotes and chances are they would be perfect. I just have an aversion to them because in my experience they're bite happy and also get bored with being pets and develop destructive behaviours. Many of them, I think the breed has an unusually high rate of problematic individuals, but that's not to say there aren't plenty of perfect ones.
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Andreita
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MT58 wrote ...


An Akbash





This Akbash look s really great, I love very much this breed but it is very difficult to find a great dog like in tihs pic.

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R. Ridgeback was the first breed I thought of for your needs and after reading all of the posts I still can not think of anything better. But I'm sure that there are others that would do as well, in fact, if you don't mind doing all the grooming, a standard poodle could even fit the bill, they are hardy, sociable, smart enough to be trained to do just about anything, and tougher than most people would think...

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Here is something outside the box - why not a Saluki?
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Well like I mentioned, while sighthounds are great for hunting coyotes, they're not naturally alert protectors.
That said boston terriers are quite alert, and I suppose once they're yapping the sighthound would be inclined to check out what all the commotion was about.

I don't think a saluki is the ideal sighthound though, being so lightly built the coyote might be able to put up a pretty good fight. Deerhounds or greyhounds would be better IMO, or if you're keen search for a rare breed like sloughis or boergreys.

Another left field suggestion- how about airedales?

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