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Carlos1122
Mon Mar 28 2011, 07:09PM
Guest Adding water to the food and raised bowls Increase the possibility of bloat this is the short version of Purdue bloat study.http://www.crittersitextra.com/pettips/NEW_Purdue_Bloat_Study.pdf
A whole page of study's.http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=Canine+Gastric+Dilatation-Volvulus+%28Bloat%29&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart
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acamper
Mon Mar 28 2011, 09:59PM
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WOW, confusion AGAIN I wasn't sure about the bowl but I've been adding water, so MANY contradictions
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Igmuska
Tue Mar 29 2011, 05:48AM
Guest The reason for the confusion is that we don't really know exactly what causes bloat/GDV. We know what can increase risks, but there are no definitive answers.
We were talking about hydration, which is why I add water to meals. This is an old trick used by competitive mushers.
I do let it sit before feeding. This expands the food before it hits the system. I also do not feed large volumes.
There is a risk in both. The main component of bloat and GDV is air intake with consumption. Your animal can bloat regardless of all the precautions you take. Personally, I feel there is a conformational causative that puts animals at a high risk.
Though both elevation and water can increase the risk, ultimately it is the volume consumed and this includes air as well.
I hope this helps you understand the risks. Knowing the risks is key to feeding and working your dog safely.
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acamper
Tue Mar 29 2011, 09:05AM
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Can a LOT or MOST of it be attributed to heredity and family lineage?
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Castanha
Tue Mar 29 2011, 12:01PM
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So, does that mean i am lucky my girl doesn't drink much?...lol
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Igmuska
Tue Mar 29 2011, 12:10PM
Guest Well, considering that not every breed out there can bloat, and it is believed to relate to structure, and structure is inherited, then yes. Personally, I feel there are a few key anatomical features which increase the likelihood of bloat and GDV.
If you are familiar with HD and DJD, it is similar in manifestation. We know there is a genetic link, but there is no one key "culprit" that can be found. Make sense?
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No, not familiar with HD or DJD, I DO understand the genetic makeup and how big, broad chested dogs are susceptible to bloat. I thought it MAY be inherited from parents moreso than the breed though.
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Igmuska
Tue Mar 29 2011, 01:21PM
Guest I think you missed my point. If lines within a breed known to bloat (or have HD[hip dysplasia]) have a higher instance of bloating, you can say, yes it is heredity. Those parents and that line produce a higher instance of the disease. Therefore, there is some trait, possibly physical that causes this risk.
You would say the same for hip health.
It is not really just big chested dogs. There is something people miss in saying this. If it was just because of broad chested dogs, then Deutche Dogges, GSDs, Irish Wolfhounds, and Dobermans and other narrow, deep chested breeds who are know to bloat would not.
Again, in these breeds there are lines and certain dogs that can produce a higher instance, just like HD. We can create it through breeding (many test groups have been specifically bred to have HD or bloat for trials), but we can not totally pinpoint it or eradicate it.
You have to remember that every breed starts with individual dogs. Breed tendencies are genetic by design. One of the first identifiers of an inherited disease or anomaly is if it is solely found in one or a few select breeds.
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