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| acamper |
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 | Castanha wrote ... Here she is having a good time exploring the mountains. She is extra alert every time we are in the wilderness, could be due the the wild life and the scent they leave behind. Is that possible? Again, we saw one guy walking up hill very slowly as it was pretty steep. She thought he was suspicious and trying to sneak on us, so she growled and barked at him. When I told her everything is ok, and spoke to the man nicely, she moved her tail and went to greet him.   See, to ME this sounds like an excellent dog, POTENTIALLY, but I'm sure others may say she appears fearful and may become a fear biter, I don't know. And WOW I LOVE your hiking pictures, just wish I could find something like THAT here near Chicago, but hey big city blues. | ||||
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| Igmuska |
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| Guest | Good reaction. This is exactly what you want to teach your dog. The more she learns to take cues from you, the better. She's growing fast. | ||||
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| Castanha |
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 | She is way too friendly with people to bite anyone, but I could be wrong. She gets suspicious when someone seems to sneak on us. The rest of the time when I take her on hiking trails where we meet people jogging, cycling, etc, she doesn't pay attention to them. Yeah, about the hiking pictures. This is one of my favorite trail and only 35 minutes away from my house...^o) [ Edited Wed May 18 2011, 11:41AM ] | ||||
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| Igmuska |
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| Guest | Now, what I am talking about is when she's grown. You are establishing leadership, which is important for any dog. I didn't say anything about her biting anyone... I know you want her protective, but you have plenty of time to work on that. | ||||
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| Reggie98 |
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Crnosrce1 wrote ... Scott type dogs are too "pitish" for most peoples taste, and JDJ dogs can have extreme man and animal aggro issues. When you blend the 2, you can easily get best of both worlds. Matt Boyd, IMO, breeds the best hybrids one can hope to own. "Easily." Is that right? FYI...It's more accurate to say you can easily get the worst of both worlds. Genetics is a funny thing. Assuming you breed superior male to superior female, the only thing you guarantee is that the CHANCES are stronger that you'll produce good pups. As far as which is the better "guardian," one must ask the question, "Guardian of WHAT??" People? Objects? The yard? The food bowl? The applications are endless. It comes down to the genetics of the individual dog. The differences offered in the above response are nothing more than over-reaching generalizations. If you're looking for a dog to excel in manwork, go to a breeder with proven stock. See the parents work on neutral turf. See them tested and then see them tested again. While it's true that Johnsons are generally not used for advanced levels of manwork, perhaps you just want an intimidating dog with a decent level of civil aggression to roam behind a fence. There are plenty that can do that. Here's a few places to start... -link- -link- -link- -link- [ Edited Sat Nov 26 2011, 07:27AM ] | |||||
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| Crnosrce1 |
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| Guest | Yeah, that's right, it is that easy. They are no different than any other bandog out there. Bulldogs are easy as sh!t to make, any type and temperament can be made in f1's. AB is not a breed, it is barely a type. I'd take a boxer these days over an AB. But to each their own. [ Edited Fri Nov 04 2011, 10:47AM ] | ||||
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| Igmuska |
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| Guest | Hey Reggie, welcome to the site, and thanks for the comment. Please take the time to introduce yourself and your involvement with dogs. We have been having a bit of an issue with trolls as of late and; it is better and more polite to know who we are talking to before jumping into threads. Thanks. | ||||
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| LeeRobinson |
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Owner & Head Trainer @ Chimera Kennels | Of course being able to breath matters. What if you are out hiking or jogging...and your dog is tired and then someone attacks? What if you are walking your dog on a hot day and someone attacks you after you have completed your walk around the block? Do you want your dog to have drive? Exhaustion can extinguish some drives. The better your dog feels, the better they will respond. Also, check out the Painter and Hines AB lines. I wouldn't waste my time with a Johnson dog. | ||||
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| Reggie98 |
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Crnosrce1 wrote ... Yeah, that's right, it is that easy. They are no different than any other bandog out there. Bulldogs are easy as sh!t to make, any type and temperament can be made in f1's. AB is not a breed, it is barely a type. I'd take a boxer these days over an AB. But to each their own. "I'd take a Boxer these days over an AB." Thanks a pretty silly statement, isn't it? That's like saying "I'll take Italian skiers over French skiers." The logical response would be WHICH Italian and WHICH French skiers? Putting aside the issue of the alarmingly high cancer rate among Boxers as a breed, my response is WHICH Boxer over WHICH AB? Are you claiming there are currently Boxers being consistently bred that can perform with the elite of the current ranks of working titled ABs?? If so, please direct me to those individual specimens. I'd love to see them on the trial field and in the back wood with some of the ABs I've seen work. So yes, of which specific Boxers do you speak? | |||||
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| Crnosrce1 |
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| Guest | No, it is not a silly statement. I would take a Boxer these days over an AB, for the simple fact that in a Boxer litter you can atleast be able to make general comments about the litter, where in an AB litter, literally anything goes from littermate to littermate, depending on the recipe making up the concoction. I don't disclaim that there are some Bad Ass AB's out there, but I will stand by my sentiment that they are too few and far between these days. This "breed" literally can be made by as many combinations as there are people willing to breed them. The idea of what the breed should be is awesome, the reality of what the breed is is anything but. No mattter what "line" or what region they are from, the "breed" is on its way down due to literally a thousand sales pitches, a million breeders and no one policing them. Now all of the sudden everybodies family had these exact dogs 200 years ago, theirs are the only pure examples with no pitbull or whatever else blood in the veins blah blah blah. The elite working AB? Which ones, the ones that are 1/2 catahoula and cur dog, the ones that are 3/4 pit, the brand new ancient WEB? Come on now, the best in the breed has been seen ages ago, and it won't be seen again. There is a guy in texas who breeds Boxers who catch hogs, do manwork AND compete in conformation show, he refuses to use anything But Boxers for catching. In Germany and Czek republic Boxers are still being bred as working machines, and let's not forget Russia, everything in Russia must work(I saw a video where they were using house terriers on game). Yes, my comment of Scotts are too pitish and Johnsons have severe man and animal aggression was blanket statements, BUT it was to tell someone of the experience I have had with thousands of bulldogs. I felt for him a hybrid would be the best, and I still stand by it. If I wanted a fighting AB, there are obvious lines out there anyone who knows anything of the breed would go to(type be damned). Same with man eaters. The good examples are too few and far between to be taken serious anymore. Again, this is based on my experiences, and again, to each their own. Mike PS welcome aboard | ||||
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